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[DIYbio] I'd like some advice please

Hey, my name is Jonny Scott. I love science and I even have a facebook page called Jonny Science although its not that popular yet. So basically, I'm wanting advice on how to get started. I consider myself an inventor tho I've never actually made anything except my 3d printer which had instructions but I have all these ideas. I love trying to think of ways to solve everyday problems like how to make ethanol cheaper as a fuel source or building a home sized nuclear power plant or a nuclear car. One thing I want to do is try to create a genetically engineered bacteria that expels O2. So where do I start? How can I start genetic engineering at home or how do I make a lab. I'm a dirt poor DIY with only $400 to my name but I want to take steps to change the world somehow. Maybe make myself a superhuman on the way somehow. I found this group through biohacking on youtube which seemed fascinating. Theirs a guy who can rip phone books and bend cast iron featured on stan lee's superhumans. Wouldn't genetic manipulations be able to give everyone such strength? There's just so much I want to know in this world, so much I want to do and I dont know how to begin. College isn't getting me anywhere. Its just not fast enough for teaching me what I want to know. I had to spend an entire semester learning Ohms law in a class as a prerequisite for pre-engineering. How lame is that? Anyway, any advice is welcome such as ways to build a chemistry kit on a shoestring budget or how to do genetic experiments. I just have a thirst for knowledge so tell me anything thats cool or useful please.

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Re: [DIYbio] Online Course: Introduction to DNA Barcoding ---> Other DNA analysis MOOCs?

On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 2:10:01 PM UTC-4, Nathan McCorkle wrote:

What's a MOOC?


here is a MOOC on genomics at udacity: "Tales from the genome"


Lesson 1: Introduction to traits and heredity

Trait variation and categorization, basic models of inheritance, and the connection via DNA. Check out the concept map for this lesson.

Lesson 2: Defining the genome

DNA structure, chromosomes, and genome organization. Check out the concept map for this lesson.

Lesson 3: How a genome works

Protein coding genes, transcription, translation, discerning the genetic code, and alleles. Check out the concept map for this lesson.

Lesson 4: Gene regulation

Non-coding DNA, regulatory regions of genes, and transcription factors. Check out the concept map for this lesson.

Lesson 5: Transmission of genes and traits

Family relationships and pedigrees, inheritance patterns, allele dominance, and chromosome dynamics.

Lesson 6: Origin of mutation/variation

Types of mutations, various causes of mutation, allelic frequency, and the spread of alleles in a population

Lesson 7: How to obtain and interpret genomic information

Personalized genetics: sample acquisition, DNA extraction and processing, and interpretation of results

Lesson 8: Simple genetic traits

Molecular causes of monogenic traits, loss-of-function vs. gain-of-function alleles, and dominance.

Lesson 9: Multifactorial traits

Polygenic traits, complex traits with an environmental effect, qualitative and quantitative measures, twin studies, relative risk, and genome-wide association studies (GWAs)

Lesson 10: Pharmacogenetics: genes and drugs

Pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics, alleles affecting drug metabolism, and personalized medicine

Lesson 11: Human ancestry and evolution

Identity by state (IBS), Identity by descent (IBD), relative finder, maternal and paternal lineages, neanderthal interbreeding, and human/chimp evolution

Lesson 12: The immortal genome

Personal decisions, moral quandaries, legal questions, and the future of genetics


Jason
 

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Re: [DIYbio] Seeking manual for an older model thermocycler

Yes, I'll forward it to you in a moment

On Wednesday, July 31, 2013, Juana Martin Lopez wrote:

hello,

I was just doing a search about the Ericomp Twin block system and I found your mails. We have one in the lab but we don't have the manual. We have fixed it and we want to check if it works perfectly, but we don't have the manual.

Could you send a copy of the manual to me if you have it?

Thanks

Juana



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We're setting up a DIYBio lab in Seattle (HiveBio) and have a bunch of donated equipment. The thermocycler is this model:

Ericomp Twin block system; Easy Cycler Series; Model: EZ cycler; Datecode: 9534;P/N TCX20A-110/M5;

We're looking online and can't find a manual for it - does anyone happen to have a manual of this, or a similar model, or have any good ideas of where one could be obtained? (I already contacted an ebay seller who is selling a similar model - no reply yet)

Thank you

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[DIYbio] Re: Seeking manual for an older model thermocycler

hello,

I was just doing a search about the Ericomp Twin block system and I found your mails. We have one in the lab but we don't have the manual. We have fixed it and we want to check if it works perfectly, but we don't have the manual.

Could you send a copy of the manual to me if you have it?

Thanks

Juana



El jueves, 16 de mayo de 2013 00:46:46 UTC-4, Zeb Haradon escribió:

We're setting up a DIYBio lab in Seattle (HiveBio) and have a bunch of donated equipment. The thermocycler is this model:

Ericomp Twin block system; Easy Cycler Series; Model: EZ cycler; Datecode: 9534;P/N TCX20A-110/M5;

We're looking online and can't find a manual for it - does anyone happen to have a manual of this, or a similar model, or have any good ideas of where one could be obtained? (I already contacted an ebay seller who is selling a similar model - no reply yet)

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Urgent Client Requirement : Oracle HRMS Functional Consultant : IN : 6+ months : Phone Interview : ASAP

HI,
Please go through the following requirement and send me resumes of your available candidate on Dhruv@riderconsultinginc.com


Role : Oracle HRMS Functional Consultant

Location : Evansville, IN

Length : 6+ months

Start : ASAP
Interview : phone


Job Description :
 

Looking for an EBS_Human Resources/Core HR, SSHR, Oracle Advanced Benefits Resource for customer R12 upgrade.

 

Required skills:

·         Must have 5-7 years of Oracle Functional HRMS/HCM expertise

·         Must have Key Modules:

o   Core HR

o   Self Service HR

o   Oracle Advanced Benefits

o   Compensation Workbench

·         Resource must have EBS 11.5.10 to 12.1.3 upgrade experience. 

·         Resource must be able to instill confidence in customer as the client upgrades and optimizes their HR functionality.

·         Strong leadership skills

·         Strong client facing and communication skills.

 

 

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HI,
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Role : Oracle HRMS Functional Consultant

Location : Evansville, IN

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Start : ASAP
Interview : phone


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·         Must have Key Modules:

o   Core HR

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o   Oracle Advanced Benefits

o   Compensation Workbench

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·         Resource must be able to instill confidence in customer as the client upgrades and optimizes their HR functionality.

·         Strong leadership skills

·         Strong client facing and communication skills.

 

 

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[DIYbio] Two new Biohacker articles - Serious Wonder and East Bay Express

Hi All,

Two great new articles on Biohacking and DIY Bio mentioning Glowing Plants, Biocurious, Counter Culture labs, Berkeley Biolabs and many more groups/people in our movement!

East Bay Express -  Biohackers

Serious Wonder - DIY Biohacking coming to a Lab near you

Rock on!

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Re: [DIYbio] Fwd: Exclusive Emotiv Announcement

Nah, they were borked when I got the email from emotiv too.


On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 9:47 AM, leaking pen <itsatrap@gmail.com> wrote:
That may actually be being caused by gmail's "do you want to view this image" spam protection from when I forwarded it. 


On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 9:33 AM, ruphos <apokruphos@gmail.com> wrote:

The image links work if you remove /DEV from the urls (gg emotiv marketing). Looks like they're aiming more at Star Trek than headcrabs with the new design.


On Jul 31, 2013 12:10 AM, "Alexander Hollins" <alexander.Hollins@gmail.com> wrote:


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From: Emotiv <notices_donotreply@emotiv.com>
Date: Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 3:56 PM
Subject: Exclusive Emotiv Announcement
To: alexander.hollins@gmail.com


Emotiv Insight
headsets

Dear Alexander,


We're excited to share with you our latest development, EMOTIV INSIGHT- our next generation wearable device that is sleeker, faster, and smarter!

We've taken your feedback, and leveraged our knowledge and experience and designed a revolutionary product from the ground up. Emotiv Insight is a 5 channel, wireless headset that features an elegant, light, and user-friendly design, with special polymer sensors that require NO preparation whatsoever. It has advanced electronics that are optimized to produce clean, robust signals during everyday use. It's also compatible with Android, iOS, OSX, Linux, and Windows platforms.

Emotiv Insight allows you to optimize your brain fitness and performance, measure and monitor your own or your family's cognitive health & wellbeing, and develop amazing new applications.

Because you've been a long time supporter, we're giving you access to exclusive news: We're launching a crowdfunding campaign at noon PST on Thursday, August 1st, for Emotiv Insight! On our first day, we'll have special pricing, exclusive perks, and extra content ONLY for our early supporters. You'll be the first to receive notice to access these limited Early Bird packages, so look out for an email announcing the launch and a link to our crowdfunding page.

Please mark your calendars and be sure to check in early to reserve your Emotiv Insight.


Cheers,

Tan, gmac and the Emotiv Team


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Re: [DIYbio] Fwd: Exclusive Emotiv Announcement

That may actually be being caused by gmail's "do you want to view this image" spam protection from when I forwarded it. 


On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 9:33 AM, ruphos <apokruphos@gmail.com> wrote:

The image links work if you remove /DEV from the urls (gg emotiv marketing). Looks like they're aiming more at Star Trek than headcrabs with the new design.


On Jul 31, 2013 12:10 AM, "Alexander Hollins" <alexander.Hollins@gmail.com> wrote:


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Date: Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 3:56 PM
Subject: Exclusive Emotiv Announcement
To: alexander.hollins@gmail.com


Emotiv Insight
headsets

Dear Alexander,


We're excited to share with you our latest development, EMOTIV INSIGHT- our next generation wearable device that is sleeker, faster, and smarter!

We've taken your feedback, and leveraged our knowledge and experience and designed a revolutionary product from the ground up. Emotiv Insight is a 5 channel, wireless headset that features an elegant, light, and user-friendly design, with special polymer sensors that require NO preparation whatsoever. It has advanced electronics that are optimized to produce clean, robust signals during everyday use. It's also compatible with Android, iOS, OSX, Linux, and Windows platforms.

Emotiv Insight allows you to optimize your brain fitness and performance, measure and monitor your own or your family's cognitive health & wellbeing, and develop amazing new applications.

Because you've been a long time supporter, we're giving you access to exclusive news: We're launching a crowdfunding campaign at noon PST on Thursday, August 1st, for Emotiv Insight! On our first day, we'll have special pricing, exclusive perks, and extra content ONLY for our early supporters. You'll be the first to receive notice to access these limited Early Bird packages, so look out for an email announcing the launch and a link to our crowdfunding page.

Please mark your calendars and be sure to check in early to reserve your Emotiv Insight.


Cheers,

Tan, gmac and the Emotiv Team


©2013 - Emotiv Lifesciences


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Re: [DIYbio] Fwd: Exclusive Emotiv Announcement

The image links work if you remove /DEV from the urls (gg emotiv marketing). Looks like they're aiming more at Star Trek than headcrabs with the new design.


On Jul 31, 2013 12:10 AM, "Alexander Hollins" <alexander.Hollins@gmail.com> wrote:


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Emotiv Insight
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Dear Alexander,


We're excited to share with you our latest development, EMOTIV INSIGHT- our next generation wearable device that is sleeker, faster, and smarter!

We've taken your feedback, and leveraged our knowledge and experience and designed a revolutionary product from the ground up. Emotiv Insight is a 5 channel, wireless headset that features an elegant, light, and user-friendly design, with special polymer sensors that require NO preparation whatsoever. It has advanced electronics that are optimized to produce clean, robust signals during everyday use. It's also compatible with Android, iOS, OSX, Linux, and Windows platforms.

Emotiv Insight allows you to optimize your brain fitness and performance, measure and monitor your own or your family's cognitive health & wellbeing, and develop amazing new applications.

Because you've been a long time supporter, we're giving you access to exclusive news: We're launching a crowdfunding campaign at noon PST on Thursday, August 1st, for Emotiv Insight! On our first day, we'll have special pricing, exclusive perks, and extra content ONLY for our early supporters. You'll be the first to receive notice to access these limited Early Bird packages, so look out for an email announcing the launch and a link to our crowdfunding page.

Please mark your calendars and be sure to check in early to reserve your Emotiv Insight.


Cheers,

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Re: [DIYbio] DIYBio and commons-based peer production in the field of agricultural biotechnologies

It's sadly neglected because of the ambiguity surrounding DNA-as-code vs DNA-as-molecule. Those licenses that do exist are heavily flawed, and very attached to their parent organisations. The BPA for eg requires you to put the Bio bricks Foundation logo on any derivative works. I think the original BSD license had similar nonsense..

Also, there are no copy left licenses yet AFAIK, which is a pain. Copy left is necessary to prevent adopt/extend/extinguish, a well documented anti-open tactic pioneered by Microsoft back when they were relevant, and continued by similar organisations long since.



Avery louie <inactive.e@gmail.com> wrote:
I meant that if there were some mysterious OSB out there, I would expect some kind of reference to pop up.  According to searching the google group (where our results should be the same), OSB stands for "open source brain" "oriented strand board" and is used to describe cambia in some context.  Cambia refers to it as BiOS though.

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Re: [DIYbio] DIYBio and commons-based peer production in the field of agricultural biotechnologies

I meant that if there were some mysterious OSB out there, I would expect some kind of reference to pop up.  According to searching the google group (where our results should be the same), OSB stands for "open source brain" "oriented strand board" and is used to describe cambia in some context.  Cambia refers to it as BiOS though.

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Re: [DIYbio] DIYBio and commons-based peer production in the field of agricultural biotechnologies

Thanks for the review.

Just FYI: Google is not, even slightly, objective. Your first results are not mine, and likely not the survey author's. So, it's not a useful indicator of anything but what Google think you want to see. See dontbubble.us

Avery louie <inactive.e@gmail.com> wrote:

Another day, another survey.

I was going to take it, but then I noticed that like most of the other surveys it is full of typos, buzzwords, loaded language and bias.  I find this insulting, and annoying.  If anyone is interested, here are my criticisms on your survey.  It also seems like you have done very little research on this topic, and that you just sent this survey off to get some quotes for your paper.  This could breed more BS when people cite your paper. Hopefully this will nip it in the bud.  If anyone researches your "paper" they will hopefully find the source of the data, and see the problems with how it was collected.

Question 1: "socio-political reasons" is even more vague than "fun".  This spans people who would want to see governments/organizations taken down, to people who want to build companies to help their economy.

Question 2: Leading question.  Double barreled question.  "DIYBIO" is more than what it is stated as, but it makes it sound like it is mostly about "experimentation, creativity and amusement".  "in the economy and in everyday life" is double barreled, meaning that choosing yes is choosing yes to both.  Including "DIYBIO equipment and practices" makes it essentially quadruple-barreled.

This could be re-written as something like "Do you think that in the next 15 years DIYBio equipment might have a tangible impact on the way biotechnologies are employed in the economy".

Question 3: "DIY is becoming a popular topic and has been promoted from very different perspectives." is Irrelevant and leading.  Also, slightly ambiguous.  Are you talking about biology, or repairing your home by yourself?  Making your own PCBS?  "DIY" is a big category. "BigBio" is also loaded with (negative) meaning, especially in English where we have "big brother", from orwells novel, 1984.

Question 6: "GM crops diffusion has not granted so far any benefit to farmers"

In addition to the negative, the only options that make sense are "I totally agree" "it is plausible" "I don't agree" and "I don't know".  However "it is a dangerous idea" makes no sense,  and is an emotionally charged and ambiguous wording.

Question 7:

Then, you combine the buzzword "Open Source" with Biology to make "open source biology" which is not well defined.  It could mean something totally different to different people.  According to openwetware (1st, 2nd google hit) nobody has cared to post anything about it since 2007 (link).  This is kind of like asking 10 people.

Question 8:

"In your opinion, are biotechnological products currently "on the shelf" adecuate to face the following agricultural and development challenges"

I have never seen a kit, product, or service that is "adequate to face" or even targeted at "Reduction of rural poverty" or any of the other questions.  Not in biology, anywhere.

Question 9:

"Open Source Biotechnology aims to foster the use of biotechnologies in developing countries" Loaded language, "foster X in developing countries" and again with the OSB thing.  Who are these open source biologists?  I have not met anyone or heard of anyone who uses that term, and I can't google them, so the burden of proof is on you.

"redefining intellectual property protection" Nobody here has a particularly rosy view of IP.  Loaded language again.

"Can you envisage how DIYBio practices might contribute to this effort?" So you want us to write you some good quotes here, where we explain how DIYBIO is going to help an imaginary organization or idea that has literally never been discussed on this group?  No thanks.


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On Jul 31, 2013 10:00 AM, "goliste1" <goliste1@hotmail.com> wrote:


Dear all,


I am preparing a paper for a conference on "Knowledge commons for sustainable agricultural innovations" and I will focus on how DIYBio practices may contribute to a commons-based peer production model in the field of agricultural biotechnology (if you wish, see the attachment for the abstract).


In this regard, I would be extremely grateful if you can take some time to fill a brief questionnaire that you can reach through this link

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/52QCTV8 .


I know that you are getting bored of all these "political" researchers concerning the DIYBio community, but it won't take a lot of time to answer and your feedback would be immensely valuable for my research. Obviously, if there is someone particularly interested in these issues, I'd love to receive more elaborated inputs on the role that DIYBio might play in agricultural development. You can write me here, however if you'd like more privacy my e-mail is goliste1@hotmail.com.


Best,

Stefano

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Re: [DIYbio] DIYBio and commons-based peer production in the field of agricultural biotechnologies

Another day, another survey.

I was going to take it, but then I noticed that like most of the other surveys it is full of typos, buzzwords, loaded language and bias.  I find this insulting, and annoying.  If anyone is interested, here are my criticisms on your survey.  It also seems like you have done very little research on this topic, and that you just sent this survey off to get some quotes for your paper.  This could breed more BS when people cite your paper. Hopefully this will nip it in the bud.  If anyone researches your "paper" they will hopefully find the source of the data, and see the problems with how it was collected.

Question 1: "socio-political reasons" is even more vague than "fun".  This spans people who would want to see governments/organizations taken down, to people who want to build companies to help their economy.

Question 2: Leading question.  Double barreled question.  "DIYBIO" is more than what it is stated as, but it makes it sound like it is mostly about "experimentation, creativity and amusement".  "in the economy and in everyday life" is double barreled, meaning that choosing yes is choosing yes to both.  Including "DIYBIO equipment and practices" makes it essentially quadruple-barreled.

This could be re-written as something like "Do you think that in the next 15 years DIYBio equipment might have a tangible impact on the way biotechnologies are employed in the economy".

Question 3: "DIY is becoming a popular topic and has been promoted from very different perspectives." is Irrelevant and leading.  Also, slightly ambiguous.  Are you talking about biology, or repairing your home by yourself?  Making your own PCBS?  "DIY" is a big category. "BigBio" is also loaded with (negative) meaning, especially in English where we have "big brother", from orwells novel, 1984.

Question 6: "GM crops diffusion has not granted so far any benefit to farmers"

In addition to the negative, the only options that make sense are "I totally agree" "it is plausible" "I don't agree" and "I don't know".  However "it is a dangerous idea" makes no sense,  and is an emotionally charged and ambiguous wording.

Question 7:

Then, you combine the buzzword "Open Source" with Biology to make "open source biology" which is not well defined.  It could mean something totally different to different people.  According to openwetware (1st, 2nd google hit) nobody has cared to post anything about it since 2007 (link).  This is kind of like asking 10 people.

Question 8:

"In your opinion, are biotechnological products currently "on the shelf" adecuate to face the following agricultural and development challenges"

I have never seen a kit, product, or service that is "adequate to face" or even targeted at "Reduction of rural poverty" or any of the other questions.  Not in biology, anywhere.

Question 9:

"Open Source Biotechnology aims to foster the use of biotechnologies in developing countries" Loaded language, "foster X in developing countries" and again with the OSB thing.  Who are these open source biologists?  I have not met anyone or heard of anyone who uses that term, and I can't google them, so the burden of proof is on you.

"redefining intellectual property protection" Nobody here has a particularly rosy view of IP.  Loaded language again.

"Can you envisage how DIYBio practices might contribute to this effort?" So you want us to write you some good quotes here, where we explain how DIYBIO is going to help an imaginary organization or idea that has literally never been discussed on this group?  No thanks.


--A

On Jul 31, 2013 10:00 AM, "goliste1" <goliste1@hotmail.com> wrote:


Dear all,


I am preparing a paper for a conference on "Knowledge commons for sustainable agricultural innovations" and I will focus on how DIYBio practices may contribute to a commons-based peer production model in the field of agricultural biotechnology (if you wish, see the attachment for the abstract).


In this regard, I would be extremely grateful if you can take some time to fill a brief questionnaire that you can reach through this link

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/52QCTV8 .


I know that you are getting bored of all these "political" researchers concerning the DIYBio community, but it won't take a lot of time to answer and your feedback would be immensely valuable for my research. Obviously, if there is someone particularly interested in these issues, I'd love to receive more elaborated inputs on the role that DIYBio might play in agricultural development. You can write me here, however if you'd like more privacy my e-mail is goliste1@hotmail.com.


Best,

Stefano

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Re: [DIYbio] Re: OFF-TOPIC: taboo on using Wikipedia (school settings)

There are plenty of Wikipedia forks out there, and thanks to the ShareAlike licensing any high-quality results can be fed back into the commons. The ecosystem is more important than the platform: perhaps wikipedia is faster, and another is more precise, and between them you get high-quality data.

Re: stupid users' edit bots auto reverting things, WP claim to have been reducing that bullshit, I've noticed a lot less of it.

CodonAUG <elsbernd@gmail.com> wrote:
I became a bit jaded with Wikipedia when I tried to update the Wooly Mammoth article.  I revised a section on their relatedness and provided citations.  Someone with a history of edits simply stated that I was wrong and removed it.  The edit was then lost beneath thousands of unrelated bot spam-edits.  I don't intend on spending a couple hours of researching to have some jerk who didn't read the sources delete my work.

I do still love Wikipedia and rely on it for general stuff but I have no respect for its setup.  It would be great if there were a Wikipedia spinoff that would only update articles once and month and during that month there can be discussions about how to revise things.  12 article revisions a year is way easier to handle as a human than the nigh-infinite amount that there are currently.


On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 5:56:52 PM UTC-7, phillyj wrote:
I was reading the commentary article "We Must Face the Threats" in J
Neuro [1] and noticed that they cite Wikipedia. Now, I realize that this
isn't a regular journal article but teachers and professors seem to
treat Wikipedia as absolutely verboten. If an article in a journal can
cite Wikipedia, then why can't it be used as a source in informal
assignments like homeworks. A research paper would require harder stuff
but in my experience thus far, Wikipedia is shunned by instructors.

Comments?

[1]http://www.jneurosci.org/content/29/37/11417.full.pdf


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[DIYbio] Re: OFF-TOPIC: taboo on using Wikipedia (school settings)

I became a bit jaded with Wikipedia when I tried to update the Wooly Mammoth article.  I revised a section on their relatedness and provided citations.  Someone with a history of edits simply stated that I was wrong and removed it.  The edit was then lost beneath thousands of unrelated bot spam-edits.  I don't intend on spending a couple hours of researching to have some jerk who didn't read the sources delete my work.


I do still love Wikipedia and rely on it for general stuff but I have no respect for its setup.  It would be great if there were a Wikipedia spinoff that would only update articles once and month and during that month there can be discussions about how to revise things.  12 article revisions a year is way easier to handle as a human than the nigh-infinite amount that there are currently.


On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 5:56:52 PM UTC-7, phillyj wrote:
I was reading the commentary article "We Must Face the Threats" in J
Neuro [1] and noticed that they cite Wikipedia. Now, I realize that this
isn't a regular journal article but teachers and professors seem to
treat Wikipedia as absolutely verboten. If an article in a journal can
cite Wikipedia, then why can't it be used as a source in informal
assignments like homeworks. A research paper would require harder stuff
but in my experience thus far, Wikipedia is shunned by instructors.

Comments?

[1]http://www.jneurosci.org/content/29/37/11417.full.pdf

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