Re: [DIYbio] Anyone know a good.spam free Wiki like Database for storing experiments and data?



On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 11:08:21 AM UTC-4, Josiah Zayner wrote:
Hey Connor,

   Is it possible to have multiple lab books connected to a project? If not that might be an interesting idea especially for collaborations.

Interesting idea - Right now we don't have multiple lab books for a project. We encourage users to use tags and note types as a way to organize their data within a lab book. I guess you could say that we've organized things so that the users does not have to worry so much about organization. Search and metadata are key for us, especially as projects grow to have many participants (never though about thousands!), lots of entries, and lots of data.

One thing we do do is allow people to "branch" or "fork" (to use git parlance) lab books that have been listed under an open CC license. This is the method we're using for the #ScienceHack series of events where non-co-located groups are working towards a common goal and are building off of each other's results.

 
I actually don't even know what would be a good solution for something like The ILIAD project. How to make it easy for say 100 or 1000 people to collaborate and post experiments on a Science project? Do you feel that SynBiota would scale well? Just from a brief glance at the webpage you sent me it seems that it is more geared towards smaller collaborations? Maybe?


Some of the largest projects by team size are approaching 30 members as of now. A far cry from 1000, but we need to start somewhere and will not be able to determine what features and what affordances would allow us to scale projects from 1 person to 1000. We won't know what works for this until we encounter these scenarios. eg. we learned a lot when teams grew to be over about 12.
 
I have been trying to use a Wiki because it seems that has been the most successful large scale collaboration tool but it was also built a while ago. A customizable front page to a Synbiota project might be cool also. I see one can edit the Details but those are hidden, one needs to expand that to see what is going on can that be changed by a project creator?


This is being actively worked on, and you are not the first to request such features.

If you are keen - we work with many of our key users to help drive the design and features on Synbiota. I've followed your work since the kickstarter and would be excited to hear more of your requests, ideas and dreams about what an ideal software suite would be to you. I'm happy to connect via email or skype etc. to have a more in depth chat.

ronnoc[a]gmail[d]com

 



On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:48 AM, Connor Dickie <ron...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Josiah,

You could check out www.synbiota.com - a fair amount of people/groups are using it to document, organize and share projects, protocols, data, etc.

Here's an example of a group that's using and enjoying it - https://www.synbiota.com/projects/455/

If you want to get a handle on the features available, best place to check right now are the short walk-throughs on youtube: https://youtube.com/synbiota

I'd be excited to hear feedback from you.

I'm pretty quiet on this group - but I just had to reply to your post. Seems as though you could save a lot of time using what we've built rather then rolling your own solution if I understand your requirements correctly.


! Caveat - I work at Synbiota, so FYI about that.


Regardless - hope you find a solution!



On Sunday, May 18, 2014 9:55:24 PM UTC-4, Josiah Zayner wrote:
yeah...

I will just attempt to confirm the people manually. MediaWiki doesn't send an email when a new account request shows up which sucks. I guess I can attempt to fix that issue if I find the motivation.

Thanks all for the ideas everyone but I guess as most people said it is kind of unavoidable.

On Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:23:51 PM UTC-7, John Griessen wrote:
On 05/16/2014 04:48 PM, Josiah Zayner wrote:
> is a forum not an editable database system.

It's a big complexity leap and task, but there's
django framework for database driven web apps.  Modules
in that framework exist for registering users that would lessen
the anti spam work, but not fully automate it.

For an anti spam shield against registering as a user were full auto,
it would be AI.  We don't seem to be there yet.

Maybe that's why the subscription services are starting up.
The money pays for anti spam human verifying...

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