Re: [DIYbio] Re: Were the DIY CRISPR kits contaminated?



On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 12:28 AM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, December 21, 2017 at 2:20:55 PM UTC-8, Nathan McCorkle wrote:

I am surprised this has got any more attention, given the lack of response the EU biohackers have provided here on this mailing list. It gives the impression that EU biohackers are not interested in collaboration, and are making noise for some self-serving goals. This behavior only makes me wary of EU biohackers. Very sad.

Hi Nathan. I have to admit I don't really understand this comment. What behavior are you objecting to here? 

Patrik


There's no conversation going on here... and it seems like shoddy and misleading work.

If hamburgers were illegal to eat in the EU, and I mailed a hamburger to some food-hacker there... and they cut open the gamma-sterilized vacuum-sealed bag I sent it in, but only smelled it... so they wouldn't break the law. Then months later the hamburger-police show up demanding that now-rotten hamburger, take it to their lab and test it, only to declare "we couldn't find any beef DNA, only flesh-eating bacteria, thus there must have never been any beef at all and only flesh eating bacteria". Then these food-hackers decide they want to double-check the hamburger-police's lab work... so they do their own DNA test on the rotten-hamburger, to discover the same horrific results!

Let me tell you... I would have ordered a fresh hamburger for any re-testing of hamburgers pre and post rotting. Of course if there is hamburger flesh, flesh-eating bacteria will gladly show up and start eating away/ Of course these bacteria will release nucleases, and other reactive waste products that will destroy any detectable trace of beef evidence.

I don't know what's going on here... but something is shady.

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